Comments on: Need help, misbehaving child causing a mental breakdown? http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/ Ready Set Go, Auto! Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:23:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: marnonyahoo http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-72 marnonyahoo Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:54:56 +0000 http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/#comment-72 I’m sorry to disagree with you. She does have an excuse for her behavior. Her mom and dad are divorcing. She is 5. She is angry, confused, and hurt. She is feeling powerless. Though your divorce is amicable, she know longer has mom and dad together and it has changed her world. Stop the rewards, time outs, yelling, and spankings. These are a form of punishment. She does not need to be punished. She needs to be disciplined. Punishments are a way for you to control your daughter, not a way for her to learn self control. Instead of using time outs, try this. When she is whining, loud, or not settling down, get down to her level and say “I do not like when you (explain what and why in very few words).” Take her gently to a quiet area away from you (her room, or another quiet room) and say “When you are ready to (calm down, listen, speak softly, speak in a normal voice…) then you can come back with me.” This is not a time out because you are not setting a time limit (you controlling her). She returns when she is ready to control herself. You may have to return her to the spot several times until she sees that you mean business. Empathize with her. “I can tell you are feeling (angry, upset, frustrated, mad, hurt). What can we do about that?” She will learn to express her feeling better rather than act out. Help her to understand why you and her father are no longer together. My guess is that she still does not understand. You may want to tell her things like “I know you really liked when your daddy and I were together. I can tell you miss him. Sometimes moms and dads decide that it is best for them not to be together anymore because they don’t get along very well. I know it’s hard for you. Your daddy and I both love you so much and want you to be happy.” These types of conversations may be necessary several times to help her understand. Try and use natural and logical consequences when she is misbehaving. Taking away a toy if she draws on the wall is not a logical consequence. Taking away a toy if she throws it is logical. Making her clean the wall if she draws on it is logical. Here are some more examples of natural and logical consequences: If she spills her milk, she wipes it up. If she wants to scream she goes to an area where she can scream without disturbing others. If she is destructive with a toy, she puts it in the trash and can no longer use it. Let the discipline fit the crime committed. Notice her when she is not misbehaving. Say things like “You did that by yourself! Look how many colors you used on your painting! You can jump super high!” These phrases are great ways to show positive attention, great confidence builders, and great ways to help her feel powerful in a positive way. They go a lot farther than extrinsic rewards (“Good job”, stickers, rewards, treats). I know a lot of parents do not like this idea, but consider taking her to a play therapist to help get to the root of her anger. My best friend is going through a similar situation with her 5 year old daughter and is refusing to see that her daughter needs help. This has been going on for over a year and things are only getting worse. It’s so sad that my friend is in denial. Many parents believe that therapy stigmatizes the child but it does not. The child only sees this as play and it’s fun for them. It can really help. Start setting limits. Children scream for limits. Follow through with the limit you set. Offer choices, not chances. You can say “Do you want to do that by yourself or do you want some help?” "No" should mean "No" the first time you say it. Pick you battles! Say "Yes" as much as possible. Be patient and consistent. Good luck to you and your daughter! I’m sorry to disagree with you. She does have an excuse for her behavior. Her mom and dad are divorcing. She is 5. She is angry, confused, and hurt. She is feeling powerless. Though your divorce is amicable, she know longer has mom and dad together and it has changed her world.

Stop the rewards, time outs, yelling, and spankings. These are a form of punishment. She does not need to be punished. She needs to be disciplined. Punishments are a way for you to control your daughter, not a way for her to learn self control. Instead of using time outs, try this. When she is whining, loud, or not settling down, get down to her level and say “I do not like when you (explain what and why in very few words).” Take her gently to a quiet area away from you (her room, or another quiet room) and say “When you are ready to (calm down, listen, speak softly, speak in a normal voice…) then you can come back with me.” This is not a time out because you are not setting a time limit (you controlling her). She returns when she is ready to control herself. You may have to return her to the spot several times until she sees that you mean business.

Empathize with her. “I can tell you are feeling (angry, upset, frustrated, mad, hurt). What can we do about that?” She will learn to express her feeling better rather than act out. Help her to understand why you and her father are no longer together. My guess is that she still does not understand. You may want to tell her things like “I know you really liked when your daddy and I were together. I can tell you miss him. Sometimes moms and dads decide that it is best for them not to be together anymore because they don’t get along very well. I know it’s hard for you. Your daddy and I both love you so much and want you to be happy.” These types of conversations may be necessary several times to help her understand.

Try and use natural and logical consequences when she is misbehaving. Taking away a toy if she draws on the wall is not a logical consequence. Taking away a toy if she throws it is logical. Making her clean the wall if she draws on it is logical. Here are some more examples of natural and logical consequences: If she spills her milk, she wipes it up. If she wants to scream she goes to an area where she can scream without disturbing others. If she is destructive with a toy, she puts it in the trash and can no longer use it. Let the discipline fit the crime committed.

Notice her when she is not misbehaving. Say things like “You did that by yourself! Look how many colors you used on your painting! You can jump super high!” These phrases are great ways to show positive attention, great confidence builders, and great ways to help her feel powerful in a positive way. They go a lot farther than extrinsic rewards (“Good job”, stickers, rewards, treats).

I know a lot of parents do not like this idea, but consider taking her to a play therapist to help get to the root of her anger. My best friend is going through a similar situation with her 5 year old daughter and is refusing to see that her daughter needs help. This has been going on for over a year and things are only getting worse. It’s so sad that my friend is in denial. Many parents believe that therapy stigmatizes the child but it does not. The child only sees this as play and it’s fun for them. It can really help.

Start setting limits. Children scream for limits. Follow through with the limit you set. Offer choices, not chances. You can say “Do you want to do that by yourself or do you want some help?” “No” should mean “No” the first time you say it. Pick you battles! Say “Yes” as much as possible. Be patient and consistent. Good luck to you and your daughter!

]]> By: stargirl http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-71 stargirl Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:54:56 +0000 http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/#comment-71 I'm sorry but I don't see how you can say "it isn't the divorce we are going through"!! I don't care if you and your ex are bestest buddies the people that she loves the most are splitting up and her whole little world is changing. Also this whole experience is compounded for a 5 year old that already demonstrates some problematic behavior and who probably is wondering if the whole thing is her fault. Given the two strikes against this kid I'd run not walk to the nearest mental health clinic in your area and get both of you some counseling. You have too high of expectations for this kid given her behavioral issues and stress levels. I’m sorry but I don’t see how you can say “it isn’t the divorce we are going through”!! I don’t care if you and your ex are bestest buddies the people that she loves the most are splitting up and her whole little world is changing. Also this whole experience is compounded for a 5 year old that already demonstrates some problematic behavior and who probably is wondering if the whole thing is her fault. Given the two strikes against this kid I’d run not walk to the nearest mental health clinic in your area and get both of you some counseling. You have too high of expectations for this kid given her behavioral issues and stress levels.

]]> By: pritti_dayzee http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-70 pritti_dayzee Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:46:15 +0000 http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/#comment-70 If I had to guess, I'd say it's because of the divorce. No matter how amicable it is, she's bound to be worried. Her homelife is changing presumablly and she is now being bounced back and forth between two parents. Please note that I am not blaming you in any way for this, you have to do what you have to do. If I were you, I would try picking one punishment and sticking with it every single time. Don't bribe her to behave one day and then use time out the next. Do the same thing for every single offense. If possible, get your ex-husband on the same page, so that you can make sure that he's using the same punishment techniques that you are while she's in his care. I doubt you'll see any improvement right away, it will probablly take a week or more. And for what it's worth, I would recommend as much stability and structure in her life right now as is feasible, even if she rebels against it. Best of luck to you! If I had to guess, I’d say it’s because of the divorce. No matter how amicable it is, she’s bound to be worried. Her homelife is changing presumablly and she is now being bounced back and forth between two parents. Please note that I am not blaming you in any way for this, you have to do what you have to do. If I were you, I would try picking one punishment and sticking with it every single time. Don’t bribe her to behave one day and then use time out the next. Do the same thing for every single offense. If possible, get your ex-husband on the same page, so that you can make sure that he’s using the same punishment techniques that you are while she’s in his care. I doubt you’ll see any improvement right away, it will probablly take a week or more. And for what it’s worth, I would recommend as much stability and structure in her life right now as is feasible, even if she rebels against it. Best of luck to you!

]]> By: Jane Doe http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-69 Jane Doe Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:55:40 +0000 http://greenflagbreakdowncover.com/need-help-misbehaving-child-causing-a-mental-breakdown/#comment-69 I would have her tested for ADHD.. It is better to find out now rather than later... And you as her parents must realize she is still going through trauma even if you are being respectful to each other and even if she is getting the attention from both of you... She still does not have her mommy and daddy together... That is a lot for a five year old to handle... The biggest piece of advice I could give is let your yes mean yes and your no mean NO! No matter how tired you both are... She will test you she is a child... Stay calm even when you feel like you have had it... Remember she is the child. Going through lots of changes... Best wishes to you... I would have her tested for ADHD..
It is better to find out now rather than later…
And you as her parents must realize she is still going through trauma even if you are being respectful to each other and even if she is getting the attention from both of you…
She still does not have her mommy and daddy together… That is a lot for a five year old to handle…

The biggest piece of advice I could give is let your yes mean yes and your no mean NO!
No matter how tired you both are…
She will test you she is a child…
Stay calm even when you feel like you have had it… Remember she is the child. Going through lots of changes…
Best wishes to you…

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